tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post677370551465445011..comments2024-02-16T18:23:10.138-05:00Comments on Cake Wrecks: Passover These WrecksJenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11888187687405622408noreply@blogger.comBlogger165125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-29428868450638060042011-05-09T21:21:14.022-04:002011-05-09T21:21:14.022-04:00As one of the Kaufmans to whom the cake was addres...As one of the Kaufmans to whom the cake was addressed, I can tell you that the apostrophe was extraneous.<br /><br />Gotta say, we're all tickled pink we made it onto the site! Happy Passover Kaufman's indeed :-PAmy Knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-75874338711939592182011-05-01T15:06:03.257-04:002011-05-01T15:06:03.257-04:00OMG! The Passover one where you commented about th...OMG! The Passover one where you commented about the leavening reminded me of a advertisement I read a couple of years ago from a restaurant offering a special meal for Hannukah:HamBriannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-24660406924381965322011-05-01T02:08:17.025-04:002011-05-01T02:08:17.025-04:00ok sorry I know noones gonna read this, but as a p...ok sorry I know noones gonna read this, but as a pastry chef I have to correct this. Flour is NOT a leavening agent. it is NOT outlawed for passover or anything else. And technically an instant chemical leavener such as baking soda and baking powder would not conflict with the idea behind unleavened bread- to be ready to leave at any moment, not to wait for the bread to rise but be able to bake it immediately. therefore technically a cookie or a cake probably wouldn't have been wrong had such ingredients existed in biblical times. As long as those things arent made with yeast it wouldn't pose a problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-87350616463513167532011-04-30T00:06:43.680-04:002011-04-30T00:06:43.680-04:00Gary (who seems to be a rather prolific poster tod...Gary (who seems to be a rather prolific poster today, if one believes that all the "Gary" posts are the same person) @ 1:39 re: Andrea<br /><br />Thank you for carrying on with that Epcot. I was going to say something about the improbability of making _anything_ with no ingredients, but I didn't want to be blamed for that.Puppygirlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-76930165036529507872011-04-29T09:51:51.835-04:002011-04-29T09:51:51.835-04:00I suspect that the confusion and apparent arbitrar...I suspect that the confusion and apparent arbitrary-ness (is that a word?) of the Passover leavening restrictions are because the rules were established long before M. Pasteur started looking at things under microscopes. Thus the sourdough leavening of grains and some pulses would seem to be a totally different phenomenon from the fermenting of wine, even though the actual yeasts and bacteria involved overlap considerably. And both would probably appear to arise spontaneously from the basic ingredients, so leavening was seen as an innate process rather than as something you added. It makes perfect sense if you look at it with a pre-modern understanding of biological processes.<br /><br />I do know some UK jews who try to stick to the "spirit" of the rules as they see them: eating modern-technique non-leavened baked goods, but refusing wine or vinegar. Of course, this then annoys the people who follow the very strict letter of the rules about flour, but drink wine as part of the traditional ceremonies. Then you get the argument about whether beating eggs for a cake (or creaming butter and sugar) is permissable, or is just sneaky barracks-lawyering. It makes trying to provide food for a group containing both sides very ... interesting. Especially if your party includes vegetarians and people with serious allergies as well. My fall-back was normally vegan-something (but watching out for nut and seed allergies) with mashed potatoes, and fruit for dessert.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-6934013239260047442011-04-28T19:55:28.478-04:002011-04-28T19:55:28.478-04:00Actually you should narrow it down to Merry Cathol...Actually you should narrow it down to Merry Catholic Lent, or Merry Lutheran/Methodist and probably a few other sects as well, but Baptist don't do lent. :)Dog Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07412689558186924274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-70533093759697203392011-04-28T00:16:02.880-04:002011-04-28T00:16:02.880-04:00@ andrea: So how do you decide who gets the afikom...@ andrea: So how do you decide who gets the afikoman?<br /><br />Okay, heading to the bunker now. I'll bring my completely Kosher for Passover U(ltra)G(ooey)O(ne). Pass the maccaroons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-63807907367439783782011-04-27T19:53:23.001-04:002011-04-27T19:53:23.001-04:00I love Cake Wrecks! I have to say, I love Epcots! ...I love Cake Wrecks! I have to say, I love Epcots! I learn so much. I'm not ashamed to say, sometimes I don't get the jokes, so people who others think are stating the obvious, are actually helping! I have learned about Epcot, King cakes, Passover, all sorts of things! Keep the Epcots coming!:-) And once I get the joke, I can laugh too, not just nervously giggle in the hope that no one notices my ignorance.<br />Thanks Jen, John and #1!Nesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03295990214193837372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-64248450797525426982011-04-27T14:35:21.462-04:002011-04-27T14:35:21.462-04:00May I also add that, after 8 days of matzo and dry...May I also add that, after 8 days of matzo and dry Passover cakes, even the worst of the wrecks here began to look good. Obviously, I was suffering from Matzo-intoxication!TechyDadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15045697743827122687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-8437805619207823772011-04-27T14:32:28.356-04:002011-04-27T14:32:28.356-04:00There are definitely flourless cakes and pastries ...There are definitely flourless cakes and pastries for Passover, but let me tell you, most of those cakes are "wrecked" long without any icing, sprinkles, etc at all. They taste awful! (Then again, there are some amazing ones from actual bakeries in New York City and other cities.)<br /><br />@Marama,<br /><br />All leavened products aren't allowed. Flour can rise if care isn't taken so it is generally not used. (Matzo is used with special flour and baked in a short time so that it doesn't rise.) Most Passover cakes use potato-based flour replacements.TechyDadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15045697743827122687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-89510231096032362112011-04-27T08:19:41.849-04:002011-04-27T08:19:41.849-04:00Actually, and don't get me wrong, I looooove t...Actually, and don't get me wrong, I looooove this blog and the both of you, but pointing out that you're wrong all the time is really very nice of us. Because no one likes being wrong, right?! You're welcome for enriching your lives through our comments on your blog. <3<br /><br />:\Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-12117812864894612932011-04-26T23:34:42.164-04:002011-04-26T23:34:42.164-04:00Stephanie,
All the comments that were deleted wer...Stephanie,<br /><br />All the comments that were deleted were due to a Google glitch. For some reason, every comment submitted by "anonymous" was deleted.<br /><br />Ah well...<br /><br />johnjohn (the hubby of Jen)https://www.blogger.com/profile/18346455192176974507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-78326506562438239772011-04-26T23:00:33.448-04:002011-04-26T23:00:33.448-04:00WOOT!! I made a funny- bronze this moment.
Of co...WOOT!! I made a funny- bronze this moment.<br /><br />Of course, we let the wreckerators in the bumper- someone's got to clean the loo!!<br />(evil grin)<br /><br />-Barbara Anne<br /><br />P.S. The SL couldn't find the bunker with Geraldo Rivera's help and written directions! That's my story and I'm sticking to it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-89705157320943154432011-04-26T22:06:51.719-04:002011-04-26T22:06:51.719-04:00Love the blog, always gives me a good laugh. Our ...Love the blog, always gives me a good laugh. Our church does a Seder and it's certainly nothing like a real, meaning Jewish, Seder. So I suppose the term Jewish Seder could be useful to make that distinction. <br /><br />And now I know what an Epcot is after reading the FAQ. <br /><br />I'm curious what all those deleted posts said. Were they really inappropriate or did John and Jen just enjoying deleting every dimwit who decided to point out the cakes were photoshopped?Stephaniehttp://steph-wordbyword.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-7749919317637033932011-04-26T21:42:52.134-04:002011-04-26T21:42:52.134-04:00Wait -- did I see people criticising someone for n...Wait -- did I see people criticising someone for not knowing how to spell Guy Fawkes?<br /><br />Two more Dayenu verses! :-)<br /><br /><br />I cherish those who rightly spell,<br />Or try to do their research well,<br />But errors never make me yell, Dayenu.<br /><br />Refrain<br /><br />So? Someone thought the name was Fox,<br />An Epcot maker always “hocks<br />A chainik,” nags, or even mocks, Dayenu!<br /> <br />RefrainEllennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-70482010821684970872011-04-26T20:47:10.024-04:002011-04-26T20:47:10.024-04:00Wow. That's all I can say. Wow.
I'm not...Wow. That's all I can say. Wow. <br /><br />I'm not sure which is more astoundingly stupid, the cakes or the responses here.Elizabeth Schildkrethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07082865571683968143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-41101840746410255852011-04-26T18:21:47.867-04:002011-04-26T18:21:47.867-04:00I came back to read the Epcot posts and loved Elle...I came back to read the Epcot posts and loved Ellen's song! <br />Also laughed at Kate's (7:32) Cajun seder and the Buddhist seder. <br />"Sandra Lee" (closes bunker)<br /><br />This whole post had me laughing, but the comments had me laughing just as hard. I love this blog!Marniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10254240216101024881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-56976663531685349662011-04-26T14:20:31.760-04:002011-04-26T14:20:31.760-04:00My kashrut diatribe has been preempted by Lauren&#...My kashrut diatribe has been preempted by Lauren's! <br /><br />Interestingly while some yeasts are kosher for Passover (such as those used in making wine), others (like nutritional and breadmaking yeasts) are not because they're usually cultivated in a grain-based medium and it's impossible to completely extricate the yeast from the grain products in a way that satisfies the rabbis.Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11064818894436302156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-3744314443753706672011-04-26T13:26:31.888-04:002011-04-26T13:26:31.888-04:00Personally, I love the fact there are passover cak...Personally, I love the fact there are passover cakes, the irony is too delicious. I really didn't think you'd end up covering this holiday just because of, you know, the lack of cakes traditionally included in this holiday. Too bad it turned into an epcot, I thought your post was hysterical. Too many people stuck in semantics.Angela V.T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06000404488879228230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-73832700974064885512011-04-26T13:26:20.956-04:002011-04-26T13:26:20.956-04:00"Let Them Eat Cake said...
Joining you i..."Let Them Eat Cake said...<br /><br /> Joining you in the bunker. Please pass the Manischewitz. What are you watching? Oh, "The Hebrew Hammer". Good choice."<br /><br />Bahahahaha! Best comment! Made me actually laugh out loud.<br /><br /><3 CakeWrecks! <br /><br />First thing I break Passover with tonight might have to be cake, in honor of this post. Mmmm.... cake...Mikkinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-23665128679552620132011-04-26T13:24:04.491-04:002011-04-26T13:24:04.491-04:00Also, in terms of the presence of yeast, not only ...Also, in terms of the presence of yeast, not only can't we make things out of flour if yeast is used in the building, we can't make things out of (wheat, spelt, rye, oats, or barley) flour if the flour hasn't been made into matzo first. Matzo must be baked within 18 minutes of the flour first getting wet. This is because there can be airborne yeast and dough may leaven spontaneously if allowed to sit for too long (although usually dough doesn't leaven appreciably in that short a time. The 18-minute limit is a pretty extreme precaution).Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11064818894436302156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-89353912612912185532011-04-26T13:19:50.830-04:002011-04-26T13:19:50.830-04:00I read the blog every day. I always laugh and enj...I read the blog every day. I always laugh and enjoy each one. Here's the thing, though:<br /><br />Is it sad that I quit bringing a book to read during my lunchbreak at work because I spend that time reading the comments in the Epcot worthy posts?KSLS Rocksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-10842955185360494202011-04-26T13:19:34.439-04:002011-04-26T13:19:34.439-04:00Remember how all the "Epcot" people were...Remember how all the "Epcot" people were actually wrong?<br /><br />Well that's also what's going on here!<br /><br />The Last Supper was probably not a Seder. It was described only as a "Passover meal." Seders are not just any "Passover meals." They are Passover meals eaten according to very specific rules, i.e., with a seder plate, with specific times at which to drink wine, lean, read parts of the story of Exodus, etc. These rules are set forth in the Haggadah; the earliest known copy of the Haggadah dates back to the 10th Century: <br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haggadah_of_Pesach<br /><br />It's pure speculation to imagine that Jews in the 1st Century ate their Passover meals in any particular order. And there would have been rather extreme differences between a celebration of the first night of Passover during Jesus' time, which was during the time of the Temple and therefore would have involved consumption of the Paschal lamb, which was a central part of the Passover ritual at the time.Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11064818894436302156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-90778237074838956132011-04-26T13:18:14.619-04:002011-04-26T13:18:14.619-04:00So uh... did you guys know some christians do sede...So uh... did you guys know some christians do seder dinners? I mean... duh guys... *hope my sarcasm is obvious* lol I can't even read all the comments. So silly!LaurenOpiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06152040826441673355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-71259214727515420072011-04-26T13:15:58.695-04:002011-04-26T13:15:58.695-04:00Ow ow ow ow ow. I can't tell what's worse...Ow ow ow ow ow. I can't tell what's worse, the wreckerating, or the absolute horror that passes for Jewish education these days.<br /><br />What is prohibited are foods and food byproducts whose production places any of the "five grains" (wheat, oats, barley, rye and spelt) together with water for long enough for fermentation to begin (considered to be 18 minutes).<br /><br />Regular flour is not allowed because it is often processed with steam. Baked good must either be baked in under 18 minutes, as with matzah, or using a "flour" that's made from finely ground matzah. Yeast, being a fungus, can be totally kosher for Passover.<br /><br />Certain Jewish communities have a tradition of not eating other grains, pulses or legumes. These traditions vary by location and exist either to prevent confusion as to what items are prohibited or because the harvested items are often cross-contaminated with the five grains. The most stringent traditions are followed by Ashkenazi Jews.Laurennoreply@blogger.com