tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post1552985121431992889..comments2024-02-16T18:23:10.138-05:00Comments on Cake Wrecks: Now THAT'S ItalianJenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11888187687405622408noreply@blogger.comBlogger104125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-12835393783296520262010-08-31T22:48:32.348-04:002010-08-31T22:48:32.348-04:00Hey all,
So comments were fun but I'm just go...Hey all,<br /><br />So comments were fun but I'm just gonna go ahead and shut them off since the only ones we'll get from this point will be telling me what a hapless schmuck I am. Alas, maybe you're right. I would encourage you to read through the comments as I'm sure your concerns were voiced already and your feelings on the matter represented fairly. Please allow me to end with this:<br /><br />-I was not implying anything about the Italian people.<br /><br />-I did not mean to imply any stereotype.<br /><br />-I do not believe I said anything in the post that was derogatory to Italian people.<br /><br />I simply tried to make a few of you laugh with a story about a fictional bakery and a fictional baker with a cool accent. I hope some of you enjoyed the post and I am truly sorry if you were offended.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />johnjohn (the hubby of Jen)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-31951134341489617682010-08-31T22:26:33.924-04:002010-08-31T22:26:33.924-04:00I'm so glad that Father Guido Sarducci could l...I'm so glad that Father Guido Sarducci could lend a hand!Carriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07926601582119554643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-12709204887975127972010-08-31T21:43:21.956-04:002010-08-31T21:43:21.956-04:00Just read the rest of the posts, and I have to say...Just read the rest of the posts, and I have to say- <br />Yeah, john! and Stoich91! and MollyB!<br /><br />That is all.SuperDaisynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-44637379098613958542010-08-31T21:22:30.097-04:002010-08-31T21:22:30.097-04:00I guess I'm someone who doesn't really hav...I guess I'm someone who doesn't really have a sense of humor, then.<br /><br />But I think that the issues are:<br />1) First, as many people have said, if the cakes are Italian, as in from Italy, then the accent really doesn't match, as you are using a stereotypical Italian-American accent.<br /><br />2) While I hear you that you are Irish and they have also been persecuted, as someone of Italian heritage, I am wondering how often people have truly treated you differently for being Irish(-American?). There have actually been many times in my life as someone with a very Italian last name that people have used this accent, or asked me if I have family in the mob, or asked me if I speak Italian, or if I listen to opera at home, etc. even though I'm a third-generation American. <br /><br />Of course, some Italian-Americans don't mind continuing to be portrayed as the white "other," hence the currently popular TV shows. And maybe it's just a Jersey thing, as I really don't know anyone who actually speaks like that (I am from upstate NY). <br /><br />What you were doing in the post wasn't merely pointing out a linguistic difference, therefore, as I'm sure you know that most Italian-Americans don't speak the way you did in the post. You can say it's all in jest, and I'm sure it was, but I hope you can at least appreciate while some people find it offensive because it continues to stereotype, not just because of the use of the accent, but because of what the accent itself connotes.Caranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-42870655016087819032010-08-31T21:20:14.466-04:002010-08-31T21:20:14.466-04:00Ha!
The Alphabet Gang beat me to it-
I wasn't...Ha! <br />The Alphabet Gang beat me to it-<br />I wasn't able to play the audio clip, but i heard Father Guido Sarducci's voice anyway!<br /><br />Whatever happened to that guy, anyway?SuperDaisynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-57802354604892506452010-08-31T21:15:44.434-04:002010-08-31T21:15:44.434-04:00Seriously?
foreign accent = comedy is so . . . ol...Seriously?<br /><br />foreign accent = comedy is so . . . old timey<br /><br />I'm a little disappointed that this is the best a couple of brilliant nerds could come up with. But I guess you can't win 'em all. Tomorrow is another day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-63952193169665540422010-08-31T21:07:00.872-04:002010-08-31T21:07:00.872-04:00I'll admit, I kind of read the comments primar...I'll admit, I kind of read the comments primarily to see how many people flipped out to the effect of "OMG that is the most racist post I have ever seen!!!" It took a long time to get to any negative comments, so my hopes were temporarily lifted, though predictably dashed.<br /><br />I think you and Jen do a fantastic job of being funny while providing those with sensitive tastes a way out (when you put disclaimers on the phallic posts, for example.) I also think it is great that you often address the overly offended in the comments, no matter how overwrought the complaint-- they should at least appreciate that. I equally applaud you for not backing down on your decisions. I'm sure that you and Jen put a lot of thought into what you post or don't post, and anyone who reads this site regularly knows you do not set out to be hurtful or offensive.<br /><br />Keep up the good work.<br /><br />Oh, and I too thought the first one was some sort of weird sausage collage.<br /><br />--kateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-45619307497301929742010-08-31T21:00:07.237-04:002010-08-31T21:00:07.237-04:00Um, is it wrong that I read this whole thing with ...Um, is it wrong that I read this whole thing with the voice of Mario from Super Mario Bros. in my head? Itsa me, MAARIO! LOLCulinarychiqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09541108854631999496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-68361340113318167292010-08-31T20:32:30.073-04:002010-08-31T20:32:30.073-04:00"Cake Wrecks! Where hilarity and nausea wrest..."Cake Wrecks! Where hilarity and nausea wrestle for dominance on a daily basis."<br /><br />T-SHIRT!!!!!!!!!!!!Let Them Eat Cakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-34642386713565727782010-08-31T20:13:42.256-04:002010-08-31T20:13:42.256-04:00Heh! It certainly does catch my eye!Heh! It certainly does catch my eye!Carrietastichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09347441997500683207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-7317735661134051952010-08-31T20:03:55.992-04:002010-08-31T20:03:55.992-04:00OMG I JUST DIED LAUGHING!!!!!!!OMG I JUST DIED LAUGHING!!!!!!!Terrrs-uhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-59442958445273467022010-08-31T19:37:01.076-04:002010-08-31T19:37:01.076-04:00"Re-cast it with "oh lawdy, lawdy me, di..."Re-cast it with "oh lawdy, lawdy me, dis shoa am some nasty cake right heah". Howabout "Ah so! Dis cake is vely, vely, flightening!""<br /><br /><br />I've never heard anyone speak like the first example, but if you drop the "ah so" (short for "ah so desu ka" meaning something like "I see"), the second part is exactly how my mother in law speaks. If her son, my husband, is imitating her, it's how he talks because it's how SHE talks, when she speaks English. She cannot say my name; she can't even say, properly, the names of her 3 children (r, l, and v are prominent in them), because those consonants simply aren't in her language of birth, and it's HARD to learn them (as hard as it is for an English speaker to learn THEIR languages and get THEIR consonants perfect) And since she's bilingual (trilingual actually, having been forced to learn Japanese in her childhood, but she won't speak that), she speaks English quite a lot.<br /><br />Noticing differences isn't racism, and if you think that simply noticing a difference IS racism, then that's in *your* head from how *you* feel about the group of people being noticed.<br /><br /><br /><br />And FWIW, they aren't on the planet anymore, but my first stepdad's grandparents, from Italy, certainly DID speak like the post! Sounded very much like the character of F.G.Sarducci. Absolutely. English classes have almost surely gotten better, and probably more people take them, when coming over...the step great grandparents didn't take classes, they just had to learn on the fly... <br /><br />So that's at least two old-school, long-dead, Italian-born people just from my extended family who did speak like that...<br /><br /><br />For the record, if I didn't see that cake being made, I'd eat it and most likely love it. I love cake and love icing!<br /><br /><br /><br />WV: poressm...I'd need to poressm beer, which is what I prefer with cake. while eating that cake b/c the icing would make my mouth dry out!MollyBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-68986901436633840052010-08-31T19:31:52.179-04:002010-08-31T19:31:52.179-04:00LOVE THE AUDIO!!!LOVE THE AUDIO!!!Bethanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12140802194994482852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-6119203215409869762010-08-31T18:58:55.012-04:002010-08-31T18:58:55.012-04:00I likea da special Read-Along Feature! Grazie!I likea da special Read-Along Feature! Grazie!Anneke (Mudhooks)http://mudpuddle.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-60788533635559023692010-08-31T18:56:54.307-04:002010-08-31T18:56:54.307-04:00Hey, there! Just a shout out from 100% authentic I...Hey, there! Just a shout out from 100% authentic Italian, here...a few comments for those who thought the post was racist:<br /><br />1. Although the accent was pretty good for an American, I can promise you that you will never walk into someone in Italy that talks like that. The accent was purely for comical effect.<br /><br />2. I am an Italian near-purebred, and I do not sense any more derogatory stereotyping in this post than is included in Cake Boss, a leading TLC tv show. No offense taken!<br /><br />3. I loved the creativity and humor! This was a great post. People who have a problem with it are most likely<br /><br />a) not Italian<br />b) overly sensitive (eg. no sense of humor)<br />c) think about being politically correct so much that they become unpolitically correct, themselves, by posting such absurdities<br />d) (most likely) all of the above<br /><br />I am not offended in any way and I thought this was hilarious. Meh, I give you both full permission to censor any more of these comments with nonsense about racism. It's a shame we live in a society where any gesture at an individual being a different nationality and not a communistic-ly identical being is counted as "racist". Italians are glad about their heritage and do not mind other trying to imitate or humor themselves with it, as long as the respect is maintained! <br /><br />Wreck on! :DStoich91http://www.twitter.com/healthyfunnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-40772655783040485092010-08-31T18:40:50.775-04:002010-08-31T18:40:50.775-04:00Anon @ 4:59,
Interesting. I almost didn't po...Anon @ 4:59,<br /><br />Interesting. I almost didn't post your comment because it just sounded so racist. What I have a hard time understanding is if it's ever okay in today's culture to point out any difference ever. For instance, what if I said that a cake looked wicked good, ayuh? Is that wrong? What if I told you I was from Maine and that's the way I speak naturally? I guess I always consider the tone of the writing when casting judgment. Did the writer intend to be cruel? When I wrote this, I intended it to sound like the SNL character Guido Sarducci who I think sounds pretty cool and witty.<br /><br />Wurd Nurd,<br /><br />First off, both of the cakes are from Italy, I used no broken English only an accent, and I made no references at all to Jersey Shore. I've never even seen the show. <br /><br />The idea that accent equals ridicule is absurd. Colloquialisms denote location of birth and nothing more. Accents of a foreign origin generally mean a person is bilingual. Neither of those warrants scorn.<br /><br />Finally, I'm mostly Irish. You know your history so you must know that the Irish people are some of the most hated and persecuted people in the history of mankind. So the question is, should I write a letter demanding that General Mills drop the accent from the Lucky Charms commercial? Would that be an overreaction?<br /><br />I'm sorry you didn't like the post.<br /><br />johnjohn (the hubby of Jen)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-83556349881930218972010-08-31T18:27:08.371-04:002010-08-31T18:27:08.371-04:00No Italians I know speak like that, but I thought ...No Italians I know speak like that, but I thought it was fun, and only mocking in exactly the same style as of the possible thought processes of every wreckerator featured here. There's no implication that poo cakes are a function of ethnicity, and I read the silly Italian as mocking Jen and John for inability to produce more authentic Italian, not denigrating the real language.<br /><br />My word verification is puglusi, which is probably really bad Italian for poo cake.Aviatrixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13634111275860140084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-61578154884658811382010-08-31T18:06:11.881-04:002010-08-31T18:06:11.881-04:00In regards to being offended by the "Italian&...In regards to being offended by the "Italian" accent:<br /><br />Get a life.<br /><br />Have you ever sat at a major airport and watched the people? How many of them can you identify with a nationality or region by their dress, way they walk, or speech? Are you unfairly applying bigoted labels to them? What do you really know about a person by looking at them or listening to them? Reality is that we all prejudge based on appearance and speech. You may try to consciously stay neutral or be unbiased, but it is really difficult if not impossible.<br /><br />Language and cultural differences are part of who we are as humans. We can either celebrate those differences, compliment other regional and national differences by recognizing them, or we can try to be homogenous white bread and Jell-o nobodies that don't offend anybody by being different.<br /><br />And even then SOMEBODY would take offense. It's human nature.Vanessa Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07687868555242718263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-1836275669418746722010-08-31T18:03:49.566-04:002010-08-31T18:03:49.566-04:00John, dear, just because you use a fake accent doe...John, dear, just because you use a fake accent doesn't make it offensive. Using an unnatural accent, *while* using fractured/uneducated language *and* casting a particularly disgusting culinary "achievement" by a very specific culture (as well as claiming to be "inspired" by Jersey Shore) makes it possibly offensive. Personally, I wasn't offended by today's post, but all of the above reasons made it pretty uncomfortable to read and, perhaps as a result, made this the most unfunny post I think I've ever read on this blog. Such a shame, since you and Jen have been one of the rare beacons of consistency in an otherwise inconsistent interwebz. And to address your comment about not being reamed for using British accents: using a British accent is not ridiculing the British culture; however, using fractured English with a stereotypical Italian accent is to abjectly ridicule a culture that had previously, and continues to suffer bigotry, discrimination, internment (yup, during WWII) and racial violence (no help from shows such as Jersey Shore and Jerseylicious). And to be perfectly clear, I am not Italian, nor is anyone in my family Italian; I just happen to know a bit about the history.wurd nurdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04980379817559870914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-65549048127973951072010-08-31T16:59:01.789-04:002010-08-31T16:59:01.789-04:00Just because lots of people seem to like the pidgi...Just because lots of people seem to like the pidgin Italian doesn't mean it isn't offensive or in poor taste.<br /><br />Re-cast it with "oh lawdy, lawdy me, dis shoa am some nasty cake right heah". Howabout "Ah so! Dis cake is vely, vely, flightening!" <br /><br />Offensive? You bet.<br /><br />Generally speaking, exaggerated stereotypes about the way other groups of people are supposed to talk <i>are</i> offensive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-54164788771639992872010-08-31T16:55:04.195-04:002010-08-31T16:55:04.195-04:00Wow.
Thanks John, I really needed that laugh today...Wow.<br />Thanks John, I really needed that laugh today. You two have kept me in giggles during a hard time this summer.<br />Thanks!Cherihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11524346335050252123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-3414393672549642012010-08-31T16:23:18.828-04:002010-08-31T16:23:18.828-04:00so. freakina. funny. bueno!! (kisses fingertips)so. freakina. funny. bueno!! (kisses fingertips)aliceinwonderland14noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-82361555753747633012010-08-31T16:22:30.973-04:002010-08-31T16:22:30.973-04:00Just for the record, I LOVE LOVE LOVE your humor!!...Just for the record, I LOVE LOVE LOVE your humor!!! I can count on Cakewrecks to make my day, every day!!! Carpe' D'Cake!!!Queen Julian XIIIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12245412235187574001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-42452370759983859352010-08-31T16:18:00.315-04:002010-08-31T16:18:00.315-04:00Ahh, Cake Wrecks! Where hilarity and nausea wrestl...Ahh, Cake Wrecks! Where hilarity and nausea wrestle for dominance on a daily basis.<br />And now with a multi-sensory experience - as if the nausea and hilarity weren't enough!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1932214040062195180.post-52877703541138533242010-08-31T15:58:09.174-04:002010-08-31T15:58:09.174-04:00Mach schnell!Mach schnell!MFonviellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15210593902727626816noreply@blogger.com